Adjustment to BCD unlock rate

[BigLoss_NoWin]

Hey there my fellow gambling degenerates,

I would like to push this topic up to a higher level so we can enjoy our so called deposit “bonus”. Currently we all know that this is basically a pay wall.

(Bet) x 0.01 x 0.20 = BCD Unlock Amount

The only justification that support has behind this current model is to prevent people from abusing the bonus, but with its current rate there is absolutely no reason why anyone should have to bet $1,000 to unlock just $2 of BCD. I agree that the current rate deters abusers, but in my opinion I believe it also deters others from depositing larger amounts since they know that bonus will never be unlocked.

Feel free to chime in with your suggestions on how we can fix this system. We need to be able to deter deposit bonus abusers, but still make this bonus able to be obtained…not through a heavy paywall.

My suggestion: Increase 20% multiplier to 50%

(Bet) x 0.01 x 0.50 = BCD Unlock Amount

($10x.01x.50=$0.05)

[KORNFED]

I want them to remove it and let us get our bonus and only be able to cash out anything over what our bonus is . 

[Belta]

How to unlock my bcd coin??

[BCGame_Bob]

On 2/28/2022 at 6:47 AM, Belta said:

How to unlock my bcd coin??

you can find the details here, please have a look.

https://bc.game/about_bonuscoin

[Adze22]

Any other casino is 60~160x play through. Not 600~1600x play through... I rather have no bonus... then be agrivated with looking at a pile I need..earned...but cant touch..less its pixie dust..without a requiem of a remote dream to be satisfied with. So I rather be 0$...then be taunted like a crack head in a dusty  newly constructed room and carpet. Lol.. it should be $0.28 \ 1.00 × 1.282828%...basically 33%release of any/all> total> wager>/bet.

Otherwise it makes me feel like im being messed with, especially when I am betting bcd... another point. Let us choose when to release that which has been earned..rather than not even witnessing it being released..whilst betting bcd.. I would rather use it like the recharge station...hit it when I am busted. 

[Buddha916]

 The problem I have is with the way the new lucky spin 10bcd reward is worded. It made me and a few others in the chat think that the 10bcd would be unlocked right away ,  provided you had 10bcd to unlock. If you don't have any bcd to unlock then i understand having to wager to build that up or whatever...but if you already have a ton of it and its taking forever to unlock then that 10bcd unlock is actually a really good prize on the lucky spin..It would be so much better to get that than it would be to get 10,000jb everyday for weeks in a row.

 

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[BCGame_Bob]

Hello and thanks for your feedback @Adze22 

Now please let me highlight few things.

1. If you are a regular player, that amount will come out  in no time . Think of it like 25% rackeback, Its pretty generous. Talk of other casinos they all have caps and other conditions to be met or you cant even withdraw it. Here just unlock and do whatever you feel like with your BCD.

2. The wheel has got other prize slots as well, and there is no wager to get the other ones, maybe next day  could be something special. After all its a free spin.

3. Minimum threshold is 10 BCD, so when you claim it, there is something substantial to play with. You still get to choose when to claim it.

[Buddha916]

On 3/20/2022 at 10:30 PM, Danny777 said:

Hello and thanks for your feedback @Adze22 

Now please let me highlight few things.

1. If you are a regular player, that amount will come out  in no time . Think of it like 25% rackeback, Its pretty generous. Talk of other casinos they all have caps and other conditions to be met or you cant even withdraw it. Here just unlock and do whatever you feel like with your BCD.

2. The wheel has got other prize slots as well, and there is no wager to get the other ones, maybe next day  could be something special. After all its a free spin.

3. Minimum threshold is 10 BCD, so when you claim it, there is something substantial to play with. You still get to choose when to claim it.

I still feel like it takes more time to unlock it than it should. I won the 10bcd and have made several deposits and wagered a few hundred dollars since then,  yet I barely have unlocked a like over 2bd. I really think the prize should be some kind of accelerated/ instant unlock of bad that we have already earned.

[oneowners73]

On 11/9/2021 at 8:36 AM, BigLoss_NoWin said:

Hey there my fellow gambling degenerates,

I would like to push this topic up to a higher level so we can enjoy our so called deposit “bonus”. Currently we all know that this is basically a pay wall.

(Bet) x 0.01 x 0.20 = BCD Unlock Amount

The only justification that support has behind this current model is to prevent people from abusing the bonus, but with its current rate there is absolutely no reason why anyone should have to bet $1,000 to unlock just $2 of BCD. I agree that the current rate deters abusers, but in my opinion I believe it also deters others from depositing larger amounts since they know that bonus will never be unlocked.

Feel free to chime in with your suggestions on how we can fix this system. We need to be able to deter deposit bonus abusers, but still make this bonus able to be obtained…not through a heavy paywall.

My suggestion: Increase 20% multiplier to 50%

(Bet) x 0.01 x 0.50 = BCD Unlock Amount

($10x.01x.50=$0.05)

 

Just now, oneowners73 said:

 

 

[oneowners73]

On 11/9/2021 at 8:36 AM, BigLoss_NoWin said:

Hey there my fellow gambling degenerates,

I would like to push this topic up to a higher level so we can enjoy our so called deposit “bonus”. Currently we all know that this is basically a pay wall.

(Bet) x 0.01 x 0.20 = BCD Unlock Amount

The only justification that support has behind this current model is to prevent people from abusing the bonus, but with its current rate there is absolutely no reason why anyone should have to bet $1,000 to unlock just $2 of BCD. I agree that the current rate deters abusers, but in my opinion I believe it also deters others from depositing larger amounts since they know that bonus will never be unlocked.

Feel free to chime in with your suggestions on how we can fix this system. We need to be able to deter deposit bonus abusers, but still make this bonus able to be obtained…not through a heavy paywall.

My suggestion: Increase 20% multiplier to 50%

(Bet) x 0.01 x 0.50 = BCD Unlock Amount

($10x.01x.50=$0.05)

 

[Porter12346]

I too would like it to be higher but I don't think It is possible for them to raise it much higher they already give away %25 house edge on bcd bonus %20 on rakeback and a max of %35 percent to affiliate (if they are on increased rate) this comes out to %80 of the house edge than they also have recharge and mostly bonuses so if they increased the house edge by much more the casino would no longer have a house edge therefor I don't think it's possible they increase it

[Ocea45ish]

On 3/24/2022 at 12:44 PM, oneowners73 said:

 

 

i agree with this guy that would be way better

 

[Luqviasviwb]

Yes

[Inluvwitdacoco]

On 11/8/2021 at 5:36 PM, BigLoss_NoWin said:

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Yes

Edited November 29, 2022 by Chadwick3d

[Seiwlryckwb]

2 ? 

[Cocodanazi]

That's is frustrating even if I didn't know that shit it will talke ages for a poor guy like me to unlock I m trying my best to do it plz make it go away or less the way increase the multiplier by on the betting amount and give us some hope please

Just now, Cocodanazi said:

That's is frustrating even if I didn't know that shit it will talke ages for a poor guy like me to unlock I m trying my best to do it plz make it go away or less the way increase the multiplier by on the betting amount and give us some hope please

 

 

[allykay]

15 hours ago, Cocodanazi said:

That's is frustrating even if I didn't know that shit it will talke ages for a poor guy like me to unlock I m trying my best to do it plz make it go away or less the way increase the multiplier by on the betting amount and give us some hope please

The only way it gets change is to make it harder to get. I'm sure it won't take long seeing how they decreased all the other bonuses. Pretty soon the wheel will be back to giving locked bcd. There's a comment above saying it's not based on wagering but it is. My host and customer service has told that it is. 

[shazi8470]

i am very los in casino crash and some other this time i have no money  i want to gift check my history no profit if you want i want play so please recover my loss 

[JackSonova]

It's a system of give and take, right? Porter12346 explains it best...

On 4/15/2022 at 12:30 PM, Porter12346 said:

I too would like it to be higher but I don't think It is possible for them to raise it much higher they already give away %25 house edge on bcd bonus %20 on rakeback and a max of %35 percent to affiliate (if they are on increased rate) this comes out to %80 of the house edge than they also have recharge and mostly bonuses so if they increased the house edge by much more the casino would no longer have a house edge therefor I don't think it's possible they increase it

The odds of what you land are, how much you've deposited recently, play amount, are all factored subjectively to each player for their play and deposit amount in order to meet business operational budgets.

Now, in mentioning give and take, let's just say that to meet the demands of what you're asking, you have to decide between the current bonus spin that sometimes gives you just more locked BCD and ultimately nothing to play with that day OR a segment on the wheel that says, Sorry try again, tomorrow, where you win nothing at all.

There are some valid points out there about the amount of play required to unlock in comparison to the playthrough of other sites but that's not necessarily a comparison of apples to apples because it's a bonus on Deposit not on wager amount (though wagering is what unlocks it). The bonus of Rakeback is what is often referred to in terms of playthrough and earning, and is an additional system available on BC.games at VIP level 14 on top of the BCD bonuses. So you're getting both Rackback as a bonus on wagering amount and in a way, an additional rakeback can be considered as the amount of BCD it slowly unlocks as well.

To be fair, I've played on sites that have less bonuses and I've played on sites that more bonuses, or at least different ways to earn bonuses that can be used much more readily. I know of sites where everyone in chat gets a part of the rain just by chatting where it's constantly $0.01 every 20-30 minutes and others where there's no rain at all or rain where it's only certain level VIP can receive.

In the end, just see it as an amenity for this casino and remember that there are other casinos out there with other amenities. So instead of trying to change what you're unhappy about from the place you get your gambling on at and maybe consider trying to change where you go to get your gambling on at. The VIP system of online casinos is no different than the player's club of land casinos, they're all intended to incentivize you to play at their casino instead of others. Whether you get more attached to one "player's club" than another is up to you but the challenging psychological factor is  when you let your progression in one or the other lock you in to one as if you're "pot committed" even if it's going to make you unhappy all the time.

In the analogy of feeling "pot committed", you just have to ask yourself, is it worth staying in for the sole purpose of how much you've contributed to the pot already (i.e. the VIP level you've reached so far) if your chances of losing the remainder of your bank roll is highly likely (i.e. you're going to gamble with what you have either way) or would it be better to fold, cut your losses, (i.e. give up that VIP level and it's bonuses to try playing at another casino) and use what bankroll you have left to try and come up (in VIP levels at a different casino with a different rewards system)?

 

*The expression of feeling "pot committed" is used most often in Texas Hold 'Em where players are dealt 2 cards and need to make a 5-card hand using any number of the 5 community cards shown on the table, where betting rounds take place before the community cards are shown, then after revealing the first set of 3, then 1, and then 1 and a final betting round after that last card is shown; and in each betting round, a player continues to call the bets of the other players either hoping to make a stronger hand or making a hand at all, and due to the growth of the pot, a substantial amount of potential reward awaits the winner towards the end but at the same time, once all 5 cards are shown, it's possible to determine what other hands might exist with other players that might beat yours if you have a hand at all, and  if you as a player don't feel confident that your hand will beat everyone else's hands, but feel a sense of  temptation to continue calling and betting more even though you might lose is often based on a feeling of obligation to make use of those previously called bets where it might feel like they've gone to waste if you just fold now, after having called so much and staying in the game round for so long. So you then continue to contribute more to the pot by calling and hoping to win or hoping that your hand is the strongest even though there are so many other hands that you know of that can possibly exist that will beat yours and more often than not, the player usually loses and loses more than they would've lost had they just folded when they realized their hand  could be easily beat.

[allykay]

9 hours ago, JackSonova said:

It's a system of give and take, right? Porter12346 explains it best...

The odds of what you land are, how much you've deposited recently, play amount, are all factored subjectively to each player for their play and deposit amount in order to meet business operational budgets.

Now, in mentioning give and take, let's just say that to meet the demands of what you're asking, you have to decide between the current bonus spin that sometimes gives you just more locked BCD and ultimately nothing to play with that day OR a segment on the wheel that says, Sorry try again, tomorrow, where you win nothing at all.

There are some valid points out there about the amount of play required to unlock in comparison to the playthrough of other sites but that's not necessarily a comparison of apples to apples because it's a bonus on Deposit not on wager amount (though wagering is what unlocks it). The bonus of Rakeback is what is often referred to in terms of playthrough and earning, and is an additional system available on BC.games at VIP level 14 on top of the BCD bonuses. So you're getting both Rackback as a bonus on wagering amount and in a way, an additional rakeback can be considered as the amount of BCD it slowly unlocks as well.

To be fair, I've played on sites that have less bonuses and I've played on sites that more bonuses, or at least different ways to earn bonuses that can be used much more readily. I know of sites where everyone in chat gets a part of the rain just by chatting where it's constantly $0.01 every 20-30 minutes and others where there's no rain at all or rain where it's only certain level VIP can receive.

In the end, just see it as an amenity for this casino and remember that there are other casinos out there with other amenities. So instead of trying to change what you're unhappy about from the place you get your gambling on at and maybe consider trying to change where you go to get your gambling on at. The VIP system of online casinos is no different than the player's club of land casinos, they're all intended to incentivize you to play at their casino instead of others. Whether you get more attached to one "player's club" than another is up to you but the challenging psychological factor is  when you let your progression in one or the other lock you in to one as if you're "pot committed" even if it's going to make you unhappy all the time.

In the analogy of feeling "pot committed", you just have to ask yourself, is it worth staying in for the sole purpose of how much you've contributed to the pot already (i.e. the VIP level you've reached so far) if your chances of losing the remainder of your bank roll is highly likely (i.e. you're going to gamble with what you have either way) or would it be better to fold, cut your losses, (i.e. give up that VIP level and it's bonuses to try playing at another casino) and use what bankroll you have left to try and come up (in VIP levels at a different casino with a different rewards system)?

 

*The expression of feeling "pot committed" is used most often in Texas Hold 'Em where players are dealt 2 cards and need to make a 5-card hand using any number of the 5 community cards shown on the table, where betting rounds take place before the community cards are shown, then after revealing the first set of 3, then 1, and then 1 and a final betting round after that last card is shown; and in each betting round, a player continues to call the bets of the other players either hoping to make a stronger hand or making a hand at all, and due to the growth of the pot, a substantial amount of potential reward awaits the winner towards the end but at the same time, once all 5 cards are shown, it's possible to determine what other hands might exist with other players that might beat yours if you have a hand at all, and  if you as a player don't feel confident that your hand will beat everyone else's hands, but feel a sense of  temptation to continue calling and betting more even though you might lose is often based on a feeling of obligation to make use of those previously called bets where it might feel like they've gone to waste if you just fold now, after having called so much and staying in the game round for so long. So you then continue to contribute more to the pot by calling and hoping to win or hoping that your hand is the strongest even though there are so many other hands that you know of that can possibly exist that will beat yours and more often than not, the player usually loses and loses more than they would've lost had they just folded when they realized their hand  could be easily beat.

It's good advice. 

But idk. This says it's all about community. All about giving feedback. It wasn't that long ago the employees were bragging about having the best bonuses. Since, most have been lowered or harder to get. 

People give feedback and it falls on deaf ears.

Customer service will often send people to the forum to get help, so the users end up doing their jobs.

A lot of the bonuses in chat come from the users. They want users to be active in chat, forum, Twitter, telegram, discord etc. It just seems like a needy site. 

The current giveaways it just cheap advertisement. Get the users to recruit people, give some of those users money, then they will most likely lose the money on the site. 

I do understand the site needs take money but the least they could do is invest some of that money on into customer service and act like they care a bit about the community they have created. 

Heck, they could do more with responsible gaming stuff. Ive seen quite a few suicidal messages on here and chat, this year. Looks like posts were deleted on the forum. It's not hard for their employees to link the sites to provide help for gambling addictions. 

I did contact the sites link at the bottom of the page, after an incident in chat yesterday morning. 

[786Adeel]

Plz unlock my BCD because I have no money more now i m finished all the currency 

[CryptoETV]

Honestly I believe it’s a high rate and probably one of if not the highest in the industry at least what I’ve seen in last 4-5 years. $4000 to unlock $10? I’m if I was a casino owner I’d sign off on that if my team brought that proposal to my desk. The wheel has always been my favorite aspect of this site, since the very beginning it allowed me to make small wagers without making a deposit, I never withdrew anything but I learned how to play all the games with the once a week wins of XLM or XRP. If you’re going to make us spend $4,000 to unlock what ?, 5-10% of a bonus I thought the first time I finally did make a deposit that I would get added to my usable balance only to bust out extremely fast and then get hit with the realization that I DID NOT RECEIVE A DEPOSIT BONUS. BC still held that bonus and dangled it in front of me like a carrot on stick for months. Contemplated not playing here everytime a major change happened. Chat is nothing but a whine fest of people who really lost their rent money and scammers pretending to be hot chicks and selling nudes of women they stole pics from off the internet. All these things start piling up and I do know of quite a few people who have left, and the final straw for the majority was locked BCD. In all reality locked BCD is an extension of leveling rewards if you think about it, it’s definitely not a deposit bonus. To someone who has never played here, it is a massive bait and switch with fine print but bait and switch just the same. And to the BC Vets it’s a change from the old ways that none wanted in the first place. Typically I will not take a bonus at any site that requires wagering requirements of any kind with the sole exception being here and that is because it’s automatically added if you deposit the set amount. You’ve removed our choice in the matter, bought a carrot farm and probably some stock in Ugly Stick. I will say that when you unlocked the the BCD on the Daily Wheel I was took by surprise, that was until that is all I get now is the lowest possible BCD unlocked and no more CRO, TRX, DOGE, etc. not one single time since that change was made. So I’m a bit torn on that one but I’m just waiting for that to go back to being locked. My biggest gripe is earning a reward whatever it may be and then you guys do emergency lockdown and and I lose that reward because I can’t log in every hour. And not given the recomp that a lot got because I hadn’t wagered $1000 yet for the week. But that’s not the whole picture from the 1st until now approximately $60,000 wagered. Can anyone guess how many weekly’s I’ve got this month? One.  Denied the first weeks, got week 2, and guess what no compensation for basically taking my reward back and no weekly.  And support will ignore you when try and explain that collectively on the month I should get all four weekly’s, I’m being penalized because I did all my wagering in a 12 hour window instead of spread out over weeks, and to be honest I’ve had worse happen but I put those to bed a long time ago I’ll just turn into a vile disrespectful human and I’m not willing to go there again. What the hell I’m posting this, almost deleted the whole thing. I hope that someone heard this. Oh and bring back the VIP Tournaments to like they were. They absolutely suck now. You got the same five guys taking top spots every challenge, and now that one shitcode you were always super happy to get when you were busted a day or two after challenge, it never comes. I waited and waited, double, triple, quadruple checked that my post was accurate and then I see it’s been paid out and didn’t get my shitcode. Mind you this is now a week after the challenge got locked.   Had just had the absolute best experience from the fill in MOD, hands down fastest payouts ever were in December and January 2 days and boom email , congrats. Each week since the normal mod got back it’s gotten all the way back to 5-7 days and it’s literally less than half the work as participation is dramatically down  to 35-40 people in the few I got in. From 120-130 that’s someone needs to explain how bringing in less revenue is beneficial to BC, the savings of $150 doesn’t justify the loss in revenue from 80 people. You cannot spin that into anything but crap honestly. 
 

Buddha916 I hope your back on your feet after the tragic accident . People can be heartless, cant believe they left you for dead. You are a very lucky man to be alive . Did they ever figure out who it was? 
 

And if you forgot just think evacuation and fire alarm and the sheer comedy that ensued.